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Zverik's Diary Comments

Diary Comments added by Zverik

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Distribution of primary populated place values

Remind me how in 2010 I looked at populated places in Russia and adjusted tagging to make it feel better: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Place_In_Russia

No more daily changesets

Thank you for sharing! Streaks are indeed detrimental on the long run, and it was one of the reasons Github tried to abandon the day chart. Please rest as much as you can.

The OSM Iceberg

fortera_au, I guess you don’t know about three versions of the schema, about how the one we use is practically unusable for apps, and the differences in mapping between countries :) Public transport is indeed the most complex thing to map.

The OSM Iceberg

As a person living under all the layers and a few layers down, I’d rotate this 180° :)

Большие bbox не проблема мапперов

А на русском и менее структурированно — вообще в 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLwLI8fyn0

Большие bbox не проблема мапперов

Ну, я об этом — и что нужно делать — говорил ещё в 2019: https://youtu.be/aRcHLKbXlcM?si=ENu-Z0iLqlHOSPxF&t=878

Большие bbox не проблема мапперов

Моя позиция, как всегда, — bounding box не характеризует правку, а changeset — надуманная группировка для правок, которая не характеризует изменения. Валидировать изменения нужно без оглядки на пакеты правок вообще. Но пока корпорации с деньгами поддерживают старый путь (см. osmcha), незадачливые вахтёры так и будут огрызаться не по адресу.

Opening Musings

I’d say the major part of this disruption you’re commenting about came with Rapid, not Overture. Rapid is (and has been) the bigger threat.

Opening Musings

Well yes, and also I don’t care :) True, there have been many businesses for packaging the OSM data. Some of which will be disrupted. But very few of those, if any at all (Geofabrik?), made tools that affect mappers.

So if you read OSM as the community of mappers and an ecosystem of data collection, ingestion, and validation tools, then nothing would change with Overture. It was volunteer before and stays hobbyist after.

Overture Maps at State of the Map Europe 2023

Hahaha I missed that, thanks Tom!

Moving Python scripts to OAuth2

For the wiki, you should use tokens it provides: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&format=json&meta=tokens&type=login

I believe it’s the same for wikidata, since it also uses MediaWiki (I guess?)

Moving Python scripts to OAuth2

Of course, should be fine. It stores a user token to $HOME/.config/PythonCliAuth/tokens.json on Linux, or an equivalent on other systems. Dictinary hashes are provider id (“openstreetmap”) + oauth client id for the app. So as long as you make library users provide you with a client id, you’ll be fine.

GSoC'23: Final Report

This is a really thourough work, thank you for researching this!

Paikkapisteet kentältä kartalle

Thank you for this write-up! As the author of Every Door, I’m intrigued by OsmAnd’s quick actions and other productivity features, will check them one day.

Regarding ED, the customization feature is on the road map, which would help e.g. spot racks without capacity or use check_date tag for those. But that depends on when I get a couple months working on that exclusively, since it’s the biggest thing planned.

Mall Mapping with Every Door

Thanks for mapping with Every Door and making this post, Martijn! I’m glad it helps make the map better in your area :)

  • The tree mode is called “micromapping mode” — you can see a title for any button by pressing and holding it.
  • Conflicts have a very very low chance of happening, because the app downloads the objects it intends to update and does a three-way merge to build the final object to upload. But of course you can have duplicates that way.
  • You can rotate the map with two fingers.
Happy ODbL Planet Anniversary!

Ha, definitely did not plan for than kind of load :) Thanks for the heads up!

How to use Every Door

Thank you Amanda! My “later won’t work” was in the context of, “collect data now, map later”. Which I can tell from my experience seldom works: ain’t nobody got time for that. Just “map now”, whenever that “now” can happen for you. When your job is done, it gets harder to procrastinate :)

Happy ODbL Planet Anniversary!

2008 tile server is on a different machine and sometimes it crashes for no reason. I’m restarted it, but who know how long it’ll work.

Happy ODbL Planet Anniversary!

I thought, why do we fixate on 2008? 2009 would make more sense because it’s an API 0.6 changeover year.

So… https://2012.osmz.ru/4.html

How to use Every Door

Martijn, making connections is a great idea. Like a line of indirect positive communication: “hey your data has been mapped by X, do thank them” → “Y has seen you mapping and is very grateful”. Also, archievements! And tutorials for collecting data better, like what exactly to photo, how to convey context, how to submit walking papers. Maybe also package all of that for each surveying session, so that one can submit some photos and a hand-drawn map of where they are.